Thursday, August 7, 2008

The end of an era in Green Bay marks the final piece of the puzzle for Jets

By Ethan

When it was announced at roughly 1 AM this morning that the New York Jets had acquired future HOF QB Brett Favre, my first reaction was shock, which quickly changed to joy, then to excitement, and then back to shock. I guess what I was most shocked about was the fact that this trade happened after hearing several times that number 4 did not want to play in the Big Apple. But, I guess the idea of an revamped offensive line including Pro Bowler Alan Faneca and newcomer Damian Woody, plus the idea that he would be the unquestioned starter, along with the fact that if he were to succeed in New York it would strongly enhance his legend, changed his mind. In return for Favre, the Jets gave a up a conditional draft pick that will be a 4th rounder that will become a 3rd rounder if Favre plays 50 percent of the Jets offensive snaps, a 2nd rounder plays if he plays 70 percent and the Jets make the playoffs, and a 1st rounder if he plays 80 percent and the Jets go to the Super Bowl. To me, this is a very good move for Gang Green. For one high draft pick, they get the big-time QB they needed, who can throw the ball down the field and utilize their explosive receivers in a way that Chad Pennington never could. Also, he is a QB that's been there, has won a Super Bowl, and has had a lot of success in the playoffs and in big games. A constant complaint about Pennington during his tenure as the Jets QB was that he couldn't win the big one. Well, no one will ever say that about Brett Favre. I truly feel like with a relatively easy schedule next year, of course with the exception of having to play New England twice, this team has all of the pieces in place to win between 9 and 11 games and make some noise in the playoffs. That doesn't mean it will happen, as in the NFL more than any other sport, things don't aways work out as planned. The fact is, however, that it could happen, and that is something not many people would have said before the man who holds almost every major QB record became a Jet.

6 comments:

Anonymous said...

Resposne of The Big Lefty:

-First off, this is a fantastic trade for the Jets. Favre can make the throws, and can open up the entire playbook for Brian Schottenheimer, who has shown us glimpses of creativity. More importantly, this gives the Jets someone defenses need to account for. The Jets now have more of a vertical passing attack, which will be an adjustment for Favre; in Green Bay the theory was shorter passes with receivers getting yards after the catch. Are the Jets in line for the playoffs all of a sudden? Harder to say than one might think.
-Going for the Jets are the fact that their schedule is softer, they see the Dolphins and Bills twice, and this team performs well when expectations are low. Besides, the team has an offense with a higher ceiling now and a defense that remains to be seen.
-Going against the Jets are a few glaring details. First of all, the AFC is home to at least 6 to 7 potential playoff teams already (Patriots, Colts, Chargers, Steelers, Browns, Jaguars, Titans). Next up is the what if factor. Ethan mentioned that the Jets are getting a proven vet in Favre. Statistically, no they are not. Favre has thrown more interceptions than touchdowns in two out of his last three years. This is a guy coming off a career year, and he is old for those of you keeping track. Also, no one is asking how Mangenius plans to handle this. Brett Favre is bigger than the New York Jets. Period. They are now the New York Bretts. If he's unhappy midseason or something happens, then what?

I will not say the Jets are a playoff team right now because, very simply they are not. We do not know what we will be getting out of the New York Bretts this year. However, we will have a good indication of their potential after their first 4 weeks, in which they see the Patriots and the Chargers.

Overall, I applaud the move by Tannenbaum because he is trying to win now, and he was aggressive. I applaud their willingness to cut ties with Chad Pennington, accept he was not the answer, and move forward. But I will not jump on this bandwagon until they actually play some football.

broduer30wright5 said...

while i agree with Big Lefty's assesment that the Jets have a few things working against them, and that the AFC is very difficult, I think the Jets are now a team with very few, if any, glaring weaknesses. Getting Farve was only the final piece of a stellar ofseasn, that including sereosly upgrading the offensive line, as well as drafting a big time pass rusher, a very good TE. Basically, the adressed many of their biggest weaknesses from last year. Add the signings of Greg Jennings and Calvin Pace, and the departure of Jonathan "I can't play the this system" Vilma, and Dwane "Waste of talet" Roberston, and i think this team is better in many areas than it has been in a while, QB only being one of them. Farve may ave struggledm in the two years prior to last year, but football is very much a 'what have you done for me latly' sport. Otherwise, Shuan Alexnader wouldn't be looking for a job. And latly, Farve has had one of his best years, with many gaudy stats, but one that stands out bve al: 13-3. If there are no major injuries, i give the Jets a 75 percent chance tyo make the postseason, and once they're in, there aren't more than a handful of QBs in the league I'd rather have than number 4.

Anonymous said...

while i agree with Big Lefty's assesment that the Jets have a few things working against them, and that the AFC is very difficult, I think the Jets are now a team with very few, if any, glaring weaknesses. Getting Farve was only the final piece of a stellar ofseasn, that including sereosly upgrading the offensive line, as well as drafting a big time pass rusher, a very good TE. Basically, the adressed many of their biggest weaknesses from last year. Add the signings of Greg Jennings and Calvin Pace, and the departure of Jonathan "I can't play the this system" Vilma, and Dwane "Waste of talet" Roberston, and i think this team is better in many areas than it has been in a while, QB only being one of them. Farve may ave struggledm in the two years prior to last year, but football is very much a 'what have you done for me latly' sport. Otherwise, Shuan Alexnader wouldn't be looking for a job. And latly, Farve has had one of his best years, with many gaudy stats, but one that stands out bve al: 13-3. If there are no major injuries, i give the Jets a 75 percent chance tyo make the postseason, and once they're in, there aren't more than a handful of QBs in the league I'd rather have than number 4.

In response to Ethan:

-Defense is a weakness for this team. Just because a team has added pieces does not automatically make the team better (Example: Daniel Snyder and Washington Spendskins). The unit needs to gel, and function, and that is if every player plays up to their billing (Dre Bly and Champ Bailey are both Pro Bowl corners, yet we watched the same Brett Favre literally throw the ball over their heads en route to touchdowns. Just because a team is billed as solid does not mean they will live up to that billing.
-The New York Bretts (as I will be referring to them from now on)were not that talented B.F. (Before Favre), and adding one quarterback does not make the entire team talented. He helps the offense and should increase their overall production, but the secondary is still suspect and the offensive line has to prove itself. Thomas Jones, like I said, is an average runner at best. This team struck fear in no one on either side of the ball. They simply are not as talented as the AFC powers.

-In the 4th quarter, no doubt Brett is one of a few QB's I want in my huddle, but he is a gunslinger. Period. He will throw bad picks. He will make some great plays. You have to be ready to accept the good and bad. Looking at only his stats from last year shows you what he can do when he has a very good running game and a system where he is comfortable. That may not be all there immediately with the Jets.

My opinion, the onus is on Thomas Jones alone to get it done.

broduer30wright5 said...

First off, i should correct myself...I meant to say that the Jets had acuired Kris Jennings not Greg...I'm not sure why i thought that was his name, but one thing about me is I am not good with names, so I may on occasion confuse them. Secondly, in response to Big Lefty, I agree that a winning team must gel together, but that critisism can be made of any team who has added alot of new players. I disagree that they weren't talented before the trade, as i think they were above average in most areas other than QB, and in some-like the O line-really good. I think tat Vernon Gholsten will be the next John Abraham, and Dustin Keller will be a play making TE. Time will tell, but I truly believe that this team is much much better than a year ago,and while not among the elite of the league, firmly on the next rung down. My prdiction: 11-5, 5th seed, and a 1st round playoff win on the road.

Anonymous said...

First off, i should correct myself...I meant to say that the Jets had acuired Kris Jennings not Greg...I'm not sure why i thought that was his name, but one thing about me is I am not good with names, so I may on occasion confuse them. Secondly, in response to Big Lefty, I agree that a winning team must gel together, but that critisism can be made of any team who has added alot of new players. I disagree that they weren't talented before the trade, as i think they were above average in most areas other than QB, and in some-like the O line-really good. I think tat Vernon Gholsten will be the next John Abraham, and Dustin Keller will be a play making TE. Time will tell, but I truly believe that this team is much much better than a year ago,and while not among the elite of the league, firmly on the next rung down. My prdiction: 11-5, 5th seed, and a 1st round playoff win on the road.

Very interesting Ethan. By the way, the name you meant was Kri Jenkins.
-Clearly this team was not above average, as they went 4-12. The offensive line struggled last year, allowing the 3rd most sacks in the league and Chad Pennington had the highest sacks percentage to drop backs (18%, is that a great stat find or what?). This is a team coming off a low year, because this team had its flaws exposed. Looking at Jet history, it is these years when the Jets do their best work, and one can expect good things now having Brett Favre at the helm. However, I do think 11 wins is a lot to ask of a team still figuring out what it's identity is.

broduer30wright5 said...

To Big lefty...the point I was trying to make was not that last year's team was above average...it was that he moves we have made since last year made the team above average before s=getting Favre...the offenive line we have NOW-not last year-is what I was calling very good. Yes, last year it was bad, but adding Faneca and Woodu makes it much stronger and I think it will enhance the play of Mangold and the Brick/ And yea, btw, that is a pretty awesome stat.